Your Gun Training Is Useless Past 10 Yards?

About this video

Colion responds to retired Delta Force Sergeant Major John Shrek McPhee’s claim that shooting more than 20 rounds at the range is wasted effort and that training beyond 10 yards is unnecessary. While Colion acknowledges that Shrek’s perspective is grounded in elite experience and agrees most training should focus on close-range (3-10 yards) defensive scenarios, he argues that individuals learn differently and that real-world defensive incidents—such as those involving Elijah Dicken and Jack Wilson—demonstrate the value of training at longer distances. Colion advocates for training primarily at close range but incorporating some longer-distance practice to prepare for unpredictable real-world threats.

Key takeaways

• Colion discusses Shrek’s position that most gunfights occur at 3 yards and that training beyond 10 yards or shooting more than 20 rounds per session wastes time, but Colion counters that learners vary and some benefit from higher round counts
• Colion cites real-world cases he believes show the value of longer-distance handgun skills, including Elijah Dicken’s 40-yard engagement and Jack Wilson’s 15-yard shot, as examples Shrek’s distance limits might not account for
• Colion recommends that the majority of defensive pistol training should focus on close-range (3-10 yards) scenarios, but argues some longer-distance practice is worthwhile because threats don’t always appear at predictable distances

Episode details: published December 11, 2025 · 7:46 long. Summary written by Self Growth Videos from the episode itself. Colion Noir’s legal commentary reflects his positions and teaching, attributed to him — it is not legal advice. His defensive-incident breakdowns are his analysis of reported incidents, attributed to him.

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