What Humans, Animals and Plants Tell Us About Consciousness | Michael Pollan

About this video

Huberman talks with author Michael Pollan about his book A World Appears and the study of consciousness. Pollan says that after examining theories of consciousness, he concludes we still have no clear idea how brain matter generates consciousness, if that is how it happens, and he argues for keeping an open mind to alternatives such as the brain channeling consciousness. Huberman frames the conversation around the ego and self, psychedelic or plant medicine, and gaining new perspective on oneself, others and the planet. Pollan also gives a concrete example of mind-body integration: he describes an experiment in which people given ginger, which calms the stomach, were less judgmental about morally repellent scenarios than a placebo group, which he takes to suggest moral disgust is passed through the body. He argues that separating mind and body leads in the wrong direction.

Key takeaways

• Michael Pollan says current theories do not explain how brain matter generates consciousness, so he argues for an open mind.
• Pollan describes the ego and sense of self as central to how people understand themselves and their experience.
• Pollan cites a ginger experiment he describes as showing calmer stomachs were linked to less harsh moral judgment.
• Pollan argues that mind and body are inextricably bound up, rather than cleanly separable.
• Huberman frames psychedelic medicine and new perspective as part of the wider consciousness discussion.

Episode details: published September 28, 2026 · 355K views · 2:02:19 long. Summary written by Self Growth Videos from the episode itself. The science and protocols described are Andrew Huberman’s, presented for education — not medical advice. Consult a qualified professional before changing your own health practices.

← Previous: Dr. Arthur Brooks: The 3 Macronutrients of True Happiness · Next: Tools to Improve Your Focus & Concentration | Huberman Lab Essentials →

All Andrew Huberman videos · Andrew Huberman profile · Huberman Lab (official site)