DEVGRU Secrets: What It Takes to Operate at the Tip of the Spear | Ep. 253

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Mike Ritland interviews Chuck Hayes, a Navy SEAL who served 40 years including time at DEVGRU and founded Soft Whisper. Hayes recounts joining the Navy in 1982 with minimal knowledge of SEALs, his journey through BUD/S training as a strong swimmer but weak runner, early assignments at SDV Team 2, and reflections on how SEAL team visibility has evolved from the anonymous early 1980s to today’s internet era. The conversation covers childhood influences, the training pipeline, early career challenges, and Hayes’ perspective on modern SOF community dynamics.

Key takeaways

• Hayes describes joining the SEALs in 1982 when almost nobody knew what the teams were, contrasting sharply with today’s widespread visibility through internet and social media
• Hayes recalls struggling with running during BUD/S (multiple running chits and near-dismissal) despite being the top swimmer in his class, and failing dive physics twice before graduating
• According to Hayes, he entered SDV Team 2 at age 21-22 after only one Mediterranean deployment, part of a cohort focused on reaching DEVGRU, and participated in a cold-dive world record attempt with British SBS where he experienced cognitive impairment underwater

Episode details: published August 19, 2025 · 121.9K views · 4:34:50 long. Summary written by Self Growth Videos from the episode itself. Stories told by Mike Ritland’s podcast guests are the guests’ own accounts, attributed to them — not independently verified. Commentary is Ritland’s, presented as his analysis.

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